Johnson is also confused if he thinks Thomas Jefferson was a Christian, nor was he the only so-called founding father who wasn’t Christian. I know he’d neither listen nor care but he would do better if he understood the Deist views Jefferson actually held and read his writings on religion. Among other things while he believed in a creator god, he didn’t believe that god communicated with humans or had anything to do with human society, and yes, I know I’m oversimplifying here. But a core element of those beliefs is that religion has no place in government.
The so-called "religious", Mr. Adams said he hated Church but his wife demanded he attend. He also wrote in his letters that those believing God determined man's fate would like the rest of his be condemned in the fire's of Sodom. (well that's a paraphrase, but the gist of what a letter he sent to Quincy said.
I don't seem to remember where in the New Testament, Jesus encouraged his disciples and followers to overthrow the government and take over all of society, with force if necessary. So-called Christians select passages out of the Old Testament and use them to support their own agenda. They're not interested in the messages that Jesus taught; their behavior is anti-Christ. What they want is total control and power over everyone who isn't the same as they are, which is why they align with Republicans.
It is supposed to have been Jesus who said to render onto Caesar that which was Caesar's and onto god that which was god's. Separation of church and state right there.
Well, there's plenty for anyone to pick and choose from the Bible to justify any beliefs. Certainly Johnson and his ilk, which sadly includes much of the GOP at this point, uses it to justify their authoritarian anti-democratic proclivities. They just want to impose their beliefs on the rest of us and will use any force at their disposal to do so.
Thank you for writing on this. Covering Christian Nationalism and sounding the alarm has kind of been my passion and calling since Red State Christians first came out in 2019. I’m glad more and more mainstream journalists are covering it.
"God" does not appear anywhere in the Constitution. "His" Word (Gen.2-7) declares that life begins at first breath. These "Christians" are not following His Word.
“The seven heads [of the beast] means seven mountains…the beast…goes off into destruction…these [the ten horns on the seven heads] will battle with the Lamb [of God, Jesus].” —Rev 17:9, 11, 14.
Clearly these people aren’t reading their Bible very closely. They are aspiring to be part of an entity that the prophecy says will fight against God and get wiped out. Not smart.
In addition to following what Evangelical Christian Nationalists are doing, people should read Prof. Kathleen Belew's book Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary American, in which she discusses the melding of the militia movement with the Christian Nationalists. The two groups have merged. This has been going on post Vietnam, and everyone should read her book, since her historical area of expertise is modern day White Supremacy. She traces the political evolution which one should know, because if you have not read her book, or heard her speak, you will not understand the political goals as clearly. While the Seven Mountain Mandate group may be preparing for doomsday, the people who are using these "mandates" have different agendas. We see the Oligarchs using them to vote for people who will not cause them to pay taxes. We see the White Supremacists using them to set up for a White Nation-State, which is not the United States, and does not have our constitution. Yesterday Thom Hartmann wrote in his Substack about a plot that people like Mike Johnson are a part of to steal this next election for Trump, and it should be concerning because it is the stuff that African Nations are used to, and large swaths of the world, but we are not. A coup like that which legitimates itself, and which Mike Johnson is already practicing and getting away with in terms of not allowing George Santos's replacement Tom Suozzi to be confirmed so he could ensure that he had the votes to impeach Majorkas.
There will come a point where Democrats need to stand up and fight for their freedom like people who came before, because Trump wants to replace King George as the new monarch of the USA. These people are all treacherous-treasonous-traitors! Seven Mountain Mandates seems created to take control through the back door. This is a recent inversion of the Evangelical Christian doctrine. It seems super expedient.
Their self righteous and sanctimonious hypocrisy is truly breathtaking. They proclaim the sanctity of human life for a mere collection of cells while being a party to butchering children trying to cross the Rio Grande or separating them from their parents if they succeed.
From a purely historical perspective every last one of them is a heretic who would've been burned at the stake or hanged by the Christians that first colonized this continent.
If you need government backing for your religion, it means that your religion is weak and cannot succeed on its own. The problem is that whenever religion becomes entangled with government, religion loses - because it becomes something that people have to do rather than something that they want to do. Johnson is in effect confessing repeatedly that his version of Christianity is incapable of succeeding on its own merits.
You haven't been paying attention. The have read about this separation thing. But they interpret it differently. And of course his interpretation is the correct one and everyone who disagrees with their interpretation is wrong. Interpretation is everything.
my first and only crisis of faith was at 6 yrs. old. i could not fathom a wrathful god. my people were lutherans and baptists and i was neither. ever. i could fathom wrathful dieties a la tibetan buddhism, but you see, that is altogether a different concept. any religion that posits superiority over others is suspect to me. even at 6 years old. and being female, all that blame, at that age, for the fall of man, was overwhelming, especially whilst witnessing what man could do…in texas, in the 50’s. being at one with all the atoms of the universe is fine with me. using any kind of spiritual affinity to subjugate others is not. ever. but then, male and female are different creatures and truth to tell, i cannot help but think that those who are female and wish to subjugate others are suffering from stockholm syndrome. but then, throughout history, many women would substantiate their place in societies by standing by their man, as ‘twere. sounds flip, yes. but you get my drift.
Johnson is also confused if he thinks Thomas Jefferson was a Christian, nor was he the only so-called founding father who wasn’t Christian. I know he’d neither listen nor care but he would do better if he understood the Deist views Jefferson actually held and read his writings on religion. Among other things while he believed in a creator god, he didn’t believe that god communicated with humans or had anything to do with human society, and yes, I know I’m oversimplifying here. But a core element of those beliefs is that religion has no place in government.
Well said!
The so-called "religious", Mr. Adams said he hated Church but his wife demanded he attend. He also wrote in his letters that those believing God determined man's fate would like the rest of his be condemned in the fire's of Sodom. (well that's a paraphrase, but the gist of what a letter he sent to Quincy said.
I don't seem to remember where in the New Testament, Jesus encouraged his disciples and followers to overthrow the government and take over all of society, with force if necessary. So-called Christians select passages out of the Old Testament and use them to support their own agenda. They're not interested in the messages that Jesus taught; their behavior is anti-Christ. What they want is total control and power over everyone who isn't the same as they are, which is why they align with Republicans.
It is supposed to have been Jesus who said to render onto Caesar that which was Caesar's and onto god that which was god's. Separation of church and state right there.
They don't follow the NEW TESTAMENT - but the wrath of God OLD testament.
Well, there's plenty for anyone to pick and choose from the Bible to justify any beliefs. Certainly Johnson and his ilk, which sadly includes much of the GOP at this point, uses it to justify their authoritarian anti-democratic proclivities. They just want to impose their beliefs on the rest of us and will use any force at their disposal to do so.
I would like Judge Parker to spend 24 hours naked in a deep freezer and then tell us that frozen embryo's are viable people
Thank you for writing on this. Covering Christian Nationalism and sounding the alarm has kind of been my passion and calling since Red State Christians first came out in 2019. I’m glad more and more mainstream journalists are covering it.
"God" does not appear anywhere in the Constitution. "His" Word (Gen.2-7) declares that life begins at first breath. These "Christians" are not following His Word.
Exactly
“The seven heads [of the beast] means seven mountains…the beast…goes off into destruction…these [the ten horns on the seven heads] will battle with the Lamb [of God, Jesus].” —Rev 17:9, 11, 14.
Clearly these people aren’t reading their Bible very closely. They are aspiring to be part of an entity that the prophecy says will fight against God and get wiped out. Not smart.
I recommend the documentary God and Country. Recently released produced by Rob Reiner
Oh yes, that's on my list!
A Trump re-election means his clearly expressed fascism will come to be .
Theocracy, white Christian nationalism is very much part of that fascism, alarmed we should be.
In addition to following what Evangelical Christian Nationalists are doing, people should read Prof. Kathleen Belew's book Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary American, in which she discusses the melding of the militia movement with the Christian Nationalists. The two groups have merged. This has been going on post Vietnam, and everyone should read her book, since her historical area of expertise is modern day White Supremacy. She traces the political evolution which one should know, because if you have not read her book, or heard her speak, you will not understand the political goals as clearly. While the Seven Mountain Mandate group may be preparing for doomsday, the people who are using these "mandates" have different agendas. We see the Oligarchs using them to vote for people who will not cause them to pay taxes. We see the White Supremacists using them to set up for a White Nation-State, which is not the United States, and does not have our constitution. Yesterday Thom Hartmann wrote in his Substack about a plot that people like Mike Johnson are a part of to steal this next election for Trump, and it should be concerning because it is the stuff that African Nations are used to, and large swaths of the world, but we are not. A coup like that which legitimates itself, and which Mike Johnson is already practicing and getting away with in terms of not allowing George Santos's replacement Tom Suozzi to be confirmed so he could ensure that he had the votes to impeach Majorkas.
https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-new-over-the-top-secret-plan-518
There will come a point where Democrats need to stand up and fight for their freedom like people who came before, because Trump wants to replace King George as the new monarch of the USA. These people are all treacherous-treasonous-traitors! Seven Mountain Mandates seems created to take control through the back door. This is a recent inversion of the Evangelical Christian doctrine. It seems super expedient.
None of them are Christians. WTF!!
Matthew — thank you for sounding the alarm. Well said. PLEASE, LISTEN UP PEOPLE. We need to get out the vote. And then we need electoral reforms.
Their self righteous and sanctimonious hypocrisy is truly breathtaking. They proclaim the sanctity of human life for a mere collection of cells while being a party to butchering children trying to cross the Rio Grande or separating them from their parents if they succeed.
From a purely historical perspective every last one of them is a heretic who would've been burned at the stake or hanged by the Christians that first colonized this continent.
If you need government backing for your religion, it means that your religion is weak and cannot succeed on its own. The problem is that whenever religion becomes entangled with government, religion loses - because it becomes something that people have to do rather than something that they want to do. Johnson is in effect confessing repeatedly that his version of Christianity is incapable of succeeding on its own merits.
Originally there were, what, 26 volumes to the Bible. Let's
condense that into 1 easy book. Editing must have been
a heck of a job!
I was baptized Episcopalian, attended Catholic school for
a lot of years, had Jewish,
Catholic, Greek
Orthorthodox, Baptist,
Methodist and 2 Islamic
friends. I married a northern
Baptist.
I believe in God and Jesus Christ. That is my faith. I
try to live by the Commandments and teachings of Christ. I am
not perfect.
It's clearly evident to me, a
lot of people don't know the
history of the founding of our
country, which isn't found in the Bible. One prime reason
was to escape religious
persecution. There's a reason
for the "separation" of church
and state for religious reasons.
None of them have heard there is separation between church and state. They don’t read do they.
"I Luv The Uneducated" . .. of course Don The Riffer was just Kidding, right ? Like the Day One Dictator routine . .
Reality has a left-wing bias.
They can read?
You haven't been paying attention. The have read about this separation thing. But they interpret it differently. And of course his interpretation is the correct one and everyone who disagrees with their interpretation is wrong. Interpretation is everything.
my first and only crisis of faith was at 6 yrs. old. i could not fathom a wrathful god. my people were lutherans and baptists and i was neither. ever. i could fathom wrathful dieties a la tibetan buddhism, but you see, that is altogether a different concept. any religion that posits superiority over others is suspect to me. even at 6 years old. and being female, all that blame, at that age, for the fall of man, was overwhelming, especially whilst witnessing what man could do…in texas, in the 50’s. being at one with all the atoms of the universe is fine with me. using any kind of spiritual affinity to subjugate others is not. ever. but then, male and female are different creatures and truth to tell, i cannot help but think that those who are female and wish to subjugate others are suffering from stockholm syndrome. but then, throughout history, many women would substantiate their place in societies by standing by their man, as ‘twere. sounds flip, yes. but you get my drift.