This is an excellent reality check. No, MAGAts aren't going to change their minds afyer seeing a Dem on a Faux talk show. As for playing the Faux network on military bases - that's about the only thing that's played on the big screens in the food courts and other public areas on Ft. Bragg. It's also played on screens in big office areas, but right next to it are other TVs playing CNN and other network news. Ostensibly it's there to keeps staffs up to date on world events.
My husband and I had already been planning to cut the cord on our cable company, Spectrum. For one thing, it'll save us about $125 a month, and I'd also asked them repeatedly to take Faux out of our package, but they said they couldn't do that. So, today I'm going to do it, and I'm going to state specifically that I don't want Faux polluting the airwaves in my house. And I want to save a bunch of money.
I agree that Fox and its affiliates should not be played in public areas of military installations as it shows a definite, negative political bias and includes racists, homophobic and misogynistic opinions. However, this probably runs afoul of the 1st Amendment since the government is involved. As much as I hate Fox, I fully support the 1st Amendment (the actual 1st Amendment, not how Republicans talk about it) and non-governmental interference in speech. I think there can be a compromise such that Fox is not shown exclusively; these installations have to cycle through other news channels during the course of the day or week, and not exclusively show only Fox. When a military installation is only showing Fox it is denying the free speech rights of those who don't want to watch it. The problem is the people on the installation who choose to show only Fox and those decisions can and should be changed.
Military bases have far more controls over speech than other areas of life already. For example, they could refuse to allow Russian propaganda to air. What we’d have around Fox is political pushback, not any valid claims that it is actual, factual news.
The FCC regulates the Public Airwaves. Although Fox is delivered by Cable, it uses microwave links, satellite uplinks, and other devices that also use the Public Airwaves. The FCC prohibits Amateur Radio Operators from cursing or playing music - why not regulate these Airwaves as well?
Check out this group which is targeting Fox's revenue stream by calling out ad exchanges that include Fox in violation of their stated practices. You can sign up for their mailing list and help with individual campaigns by emailing ad executives. It's very easy to do and it makes a difference! https://checkmyads.org/fox/
The thing is, there are millions of people in this country who get their "news" only from the toxic cesspool of lies that is Fox. It's quite literally all that they watch. That is Trump's base and that is now the Republican base. I don't know that we will ever get anywhere as a country if we simply ignore them. Having said that, yeah, I've yet to see even one MAGA supporter ever change their minds about, well, just about anything.
FOX and Tucker Carlson( the MAGA Version of Joseph Goebbles) are a menace to America! Murdock and his Disinformation Rag must be brought to justice and disbanded,Now while there’s still a chance to stop this mad rush into Full Blown FASCISM! And the mainstream media needs to stop their blatant two sidedness and make a stand against Trump’s MAGA-NAZI PARTY! LET LOVE RULE! ❤️
I wonder if someone could make an equal protection case against government televisions with captive audiences showing only Fox. Either an audience who is being deprived of viewing (but is that a right. Sure wasn’t mentioned in the Constitution.) Or by another channel, as interference with THEIR first Amendment rights
This is an excellent reality check. No, MAGAts aren't going to change their minds afyer seeing a Dem on a Faux talk show. As for playing the Faux network on military bases - that's about the only thing that's played on the big screens in the food courts and other public areas on Ft. Bragg. It's also played on screens in big office areas, but right next to it are other TVs playing CNN and other network news. Ostensibly it's there to keeps staffs up to date on world events.
My husband and I had already been planning to cut the cord on our cable company, Spectrum. For one thing, it'll save us about $125 a month, and I'd also asked them repeatedly to take Faux out of our package, but they said they couldn't do that. So, today I'm going to do it, and I'm going to state specifically that I don't want Faux polluting the airwaves in my house. And I want to save a bunch of money.
This will be won one cable subscriber at a time. Thank you!
I agree that Fox and its affiliates should not be played in public areas of military installations as it shows a definite, negative political bias and includes racists, homophobic and misogynistic opinions. However, this probably runs afoul of the 1st Amendment since the government is involved. As much as I hate Fox, I fully support the 1st Amendment (the actual 1st Amendment, not how Republicans talk about it) and non-governmental interference in speech. I think there can be a compromise such that Fox is not shown exclusively; these installations have to cycle through other news channels during the course of the day or week, and not exclusively show only Fox. When a military installation is only showing Fox it is denying the free speech rights of those who don't want to watch it. The problem is the people on the installation who choose to show only Fox and those decisions can and should be changed.
Military bases have far more controls over speech than other areas of life already. For example, they could refuse to allow Russian propaganda to air. What we’d have around Fox is political pushback, not any valid claims that it is actual, factual news.
You said exactly what I was about to, and said it well.
The FCC regulates the Public Airwaves. Although Fox is delivered by Cable, it uses microwave links, satellite uplinks, and other devices that also use the Public Airwaves. The FCC prohibits Amateur Radio Operators from cursing or playing music - why not regulate these Airwaves as well?
Check out this group which is targeting Fox's revenue stream by calling out ad exchanges that include Fox in violation of their stated practices. You can sign up for their mailing list and help with individual campaigns by emailing ad executives. It's very easy to do and it makes a difference! https://checkmyads.org/fox/
Me, too!
Thank you!! I jumped right in!
The thing is, there are millions of people in this country who get their "news" only from the toxic cesspool of lies that is Fox. It's quite literally all that they watch. That is Trump's base and that is now the Republican base. I don't know that we will ever get anywhere as a country if we simply ignore them. Having said that, yeah, I've yet to see even one MAGA supporter ever change their minds about, well, just about anything.
Concur on all points, Thank you. On "cutting the cord", I am cutting ALL cable services & paying ONLY for specific 3rd party Apps.
Well said. I couldn’t agree more.
Fox noise needs to be treated (and prosecuted) as an illegal PAC heavily coordinating with GQP candidates.
I also think that faux fox should not have reporters in the press conference as they are not reputable news. Get Doucy out , he is so annoying !
FOX and Tucker Carlson( the MAGA Version of Joseph Goebbles) are a menace to America! Murdock and his Disinformation Rag must be brought to justice and disbanded,Now while there’s still a chance to stop this mad rush into Full Blown FASCISM! And the mainstream media needs to stop their blatant two sidedness and make a stand against Trump’s MAGA-NAZI PARTY! LET LOVE RULE! ❤️
Bumper sticker saw years ago”Fox News bad for America “
👏I agree.
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine. That would be a big start.
My understanding is the FCC has no jurisdiction over cable providers on content, just over broadcast airwaves.
For Verizon Fios, there is no opting out of Fox News. I had the Entertainment package, yet I still had Fox News.
Go to 3rd Apps only. The New "Smart TV's have the Apps already built-in.
Ok how do we make this happen? Fox is in at the VA 24/7
I wonder if someone could make an equal protection case against government televisions with captive audiences showing only Fox. Either an audience who is being deprived of viewing (but is that a right. Sure wasn’t mentioned in the Constitution.) Or by another channel, as interference with THEIR first Amendment rights
Interesting idea Susan, but I have no problems of switching channels for an immediate verdict.
Cutting the cable isn’t enough if you subscribe to streaming services like YouTubeTV or FuboTV. All packages include Fox News or even Newsmax.