Exactly the thought I was trying to provoke....The myths, selective interpretation of the minds of the men who wrote the American Constitution....Glorification.......
Thank you once again. This issue has very much been on my mind. If both parties do not already have fully developed contingency plans for these very eventualities, they are driving at high-speed with their eyes closed.
In spite of the chaos it would cause, I have wondered if Biden might not drop out if Trump is barred from the ballot. He has said in the past that he is only running because Trump is the presumed Republican nominee.
I also wonder what the SCOTUS is thinking. As a body they are extremely conservative, but except for Clarence Thomas they are not MAGA. Having already shown their predilection for letting their personal politics bleed into their legal interpretations, I wonder if they are calculating that barring Trump from the ballot might actually improve the Republicans chances of taking the White House. I would be surprised if there have not been some prompting from conservative organizations like Koch that want a conservative victory but are not enamored of Trump.
Worse comes to worst, it would be a return to the same nasty free for all that it has always been historically. I would like to believe that we would not be seeing our very democracy on the line, as currently seems the case.
I’d add Alito to that MAGA list but more importantly is the timing of any SC decision on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. I agree with you that it’s probably crossed the minds (the little they have) of bought and paid for Thomas and Alito and a few of the other six Republicans on the court that substituting someone other than tRump is beneficial to the Republican ticket and Koch, Harlan Crow, and Leonard Leo have Thomas’s and Alito’s ear through their wallets.
The question is would five of the six want to risk the blame and mayhem that would break out from the tRump cult if they ruled ineligibility. Insane as it sounds, Section 3 states ineligible to hold office; it doesn’t say stupid enough to still run and be nominated. I could see the SC punting or dragging on this one or making it a two step, with the too early to bring and rule approach. Rule post primary or post convention and the five or six on the court can wash their hands of it and point to the RNC.
“the best-case scenario for our nation is probably for Joe Biden to defeat Donald Trump … to send Trump and MAGA into the dustbin of history where they belong.”
“PROBABLY”??!
You have some other outcome in mind which is better than Trump and MAGA gone forever?
"[T]he best-case scenario ... is probably for ... Biden to defeat ... Trump ..., and begin to send Trump and MAGA into the dustbin of history where they belong."
Hear, hear. But as a 68 year old, I feel I'll not live to see that dustbin emptied. Rightwing politics die long and hard.
More likely than the same happening to Biden. 81 and fit with sound mind or 78, obese, bad diet, likely high blood pressure, deteriorating gastrointestinal health which leans to colon cancer, and dementia? I’d bet T goes first, but not from any of the aforementioned health issues - it will be those damn foot bones that have plagued him since age eighteen when he really wanted to go to Vietnam but couldn’t, they’ll break as he’s coming down the stairs from his 757. Nasty, nasty fatal fall.
If the president were chosen by popular vote of all citizens, we wouldn't have to deal with this contrived mess. Hopefully, one day the citizens of the United States will force the congress to add a Constitutional Amendment to fix this and several other things like Roe vs Wade, Citizens United enabling the buying of elections, the corruption issues of the Supreme Court, and the pardons by Presidents without approval of 2/3rds of Congress.
I am not afraid of her capabilities. I am afraid of her electability.
At the moment, the elephant in the room for the Democrats is that the biggest single impediment to people voting for an 81 year old Joe Biden is they believe that he will die during the campaign or in office and that Harris will become the president. That belief is going to prevent a lot of independents from voting for Biden, because they don't like her. It could even be what prevents the Democrats from winning in 2024.
That is the political reality. It is not fair, but politics is not about fair.
Not an issue. Crank up some AI robots program the party agenda and the results will be no different. Though they’ll have to build a heart for Joe and remove the conscience from Trump.
Can a defendant in court proceedings (that won’t shut up & is trying to create a mistrial or attempting to obstruct justice) be placed under oath when entering the courtroom in the likely hood he will perjure himself or could that be considered entrapment? Not asking for a friend...
Learned so much, thank you. My prayer is that the end result is as stated, an enormous landslide by a healthy Joe Biden. Farewell Trump and MAGA cult!
The American electoral system is a complex monstrosity designed by rich property owners slave owners....
The sooner we consign it to the dustbin of history the better.
Exactly the thought I was trying to provoke....The myths, selective interpretation of the minds of the men who wrote the American Constitution....Glorification.......
A necessary deal made to defeat a Mad King . .comes back to Haunt . .. #the space takes
Thank you once again. This issue has very much been on my mind. If both parties do not already have fully developed contingency plans for these very eventualities, they are driving at high-speed with their eyes closed.
In spite of the chaos it would cause, I have wondered if Biden might not drop out if Trump is barred from the ballot. He has said in the past that he is only running because Trump is the presumed Republican nominee.
I also wonder what the SCOTUS is thinking. As a body they are extremely conservative, but except for Clarence Thomas they are not MAGA. Having already shown their predilection for letting their personal politics bleed into their legal interpretations, I wonder if they are calculating that barring Trump from the ballot might actually improve the Republicans chances of taking the White House. I would be surprised if there have not been some prompting from conservative organizations like Koch that want a conservative victory but are not enamored of Trump.
Worse comes to worst, it would be a return to the same nasty free for all that it has always been historically. I would like to believe that we would not be seeing our very democracy on the line, as currently seems the case.
I’d add Alito to that MAGA list but more importantly is the timing of any SC decision on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. I agree with you that it’s probably crossed the minds (the little they have) of bought and paid for Thomas and Alito and a few of the other six Republicans on the court that substituting someone other than tRump is beneficial to the Republican ticket and Koch, Harlan Crow, and Leonard Leo have Thomas’s and Alito’s ear through their wallets.
The question is would five of the six want to risk the blame and mayhem that would break out from the tRump cult if they ruled ineligibility. Insane as it sounds, Section 3 states ineligible to hold office; it doesn’t say stupid enough to still run and be nominated. I could see the SC punting or dragging on this one or making it a two step, with the too early to bring and rule approach. Rule post primary or post convention and the five or six on the court can wash their hands of it and point to the RNC.
I add Clarence Thomas to the MAGA list vis-a-vis his wife Ginni!
Very well reasoned.
“the best-case scenario for our nation is probably for Joe Biden to defeat Donald Trump … to send Trump and MAGA into the dustbin of history where they belong.”
“PROBABLY”??!
You have some other outcome in mind which is better than Trump and MAGA gone forever?
Good point!
"[T]he best-case scenario ... is probably for ... Biden to defeat ... Trump ..., and begin to send Trump and MAGA into the dustbin of history where they belong."
Hear, hear. But as a 68 year old, I feel I'll not live to see that dustbin emptied. Rightwing politics die long and hard.
100% of the problem would be eliminated if Fraud Trump suffers a massive debilitating stroke or a massive fatal heart attack!
More likely than the same happening to Biden. 81 and fit with sound mind or 78, obese, bad diet, likely high blood pressure, deteriorating gastrointestinal health which leans to colon cancer, and dementia? I’d bet T goes first, but not from any of the aforementioned health issues - it will be those damn foot bones that have plagued him since age eighteen when he really wanted to go to Vietnam but couldn’t, they’ll break as he’s coming down the stairs from his 757. Nasty, nasty fatal fall.
Fascinating column. This is must-reading.
If the president were chosen by popular vote of all citizens, we wouldn't have to deal with this contrived mess. Hopefully, one day the citizens of the United States will force the congress to add a Constitutional Amendment to fix this and several other things like Roe vs Wade, Citizens United enabling the buying of elections, the corruption issues of the Supreme Court, and the pardons by Presidents without approval of 2/3rds of Congress.
Very informative thank you. We sure need an overhaul of our electrol process!
I don’t know how this country has survived this long with all the legalese and lawyers,!KISS should be in the Constitution,keep it simple stupid!
Thank you for the education.
A MegaMaga Winner . .
And if Sleepy fails to Wake from a Nap ..
who's in The Driver's Seat for a Fact !
Thanks to Clyburn deal .. which was
Part of The Steal.. . . Spear point
of the Verminous Replacement attack ..
No Imagined Fate Grimmer . .. # The Momala Scare !
I am not afraid of Harris. Why are you?
I am not afraid of her capabilities. I am afraid of her electability.
At the moment, the elephant in the room for the Democrats is that the biggest single impediment to people voting for an 81 year old Joe Biden is they believe that he will die during the campaign or in office and that Harris will become the president. That belief is going to prevent a lot of independents from voting for Biden, because they don't like her. It could even be what prevents the Democrats from winning in 2024.
That is the political reality. It is not fair, but politics is not about fair.
So they’d rather have Trump with the nuclear codes again, especially with his serious cognitive decline?
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Ain't in the least . . jest doin Maga Speak . .Wait for it Louder .. .#the space takes
Biden appears so fragile and Trump so precarious that this article is so pertanent!
Not an issue. Crank up some AI robots program the party agenda and the results will be no different. Though they’ll have to build a heart for Joe and remove the conscience from Trump.
Can a defendant in court proceedings (that won’t shut up & is trying to create a mistrial or attempting to obstruct justice) be placed under oath when entering the courtroom in the likely hood he will perjure himself or could that be considered entrapment? Not asking for a friend...
Thank you Jay. I’ve tried researching this one. Not much out there other than the 20th Amendment until I read this.
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